When you make an album you want tempo and you want rhythm and you want something to excite people, as well as having all the balads, I still felt like every time I sang (a ballad) that I really meant it. Coming out of that and into original material, my heart was always leaning into ballads. I sang and performed that at the audition (for Britain’s Got Talent), and then during the competition I did ‘We Don’t Have To Take Our Clothes Off’ and Rihanna’s ‘Diamonds’ also in a ballad style. I very vividly remember my first 1,000 views on my YouTube, by the way, and it blew my mind so seeing the YouTube views now is crazy. I sang my own version of ‘Dancing On My Own’ by Robyn, put it on YouTube, and started getting a little bit of a fan base going. Although I enjoy that energy and that pop music, it still wasn’t where I felt my heart beat for it. When I was trying to find my own voice, I was in a Maroon 5 tribute band called Maroon 4, we were touring up and down and I was playing all these pop songs. That found its way into the roots of my musical tastes. (Those are) songs that are going to stick around forever. When she would take us to school or to swimming lessons, or to see family and friends or whatever, she would put her CDs on like, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Michael Jackson… these big massive voices, where even when you play those songs, now, you’re like, ‘that’s still a cracking song’. It was all from my mum’s music tastes when we were growing up. The thing with me is, I knew pretty early on what kind of music that I resonated with and that my heart lent into. Yeah, I feel incredibly lucky that my music doesn’t seem to have a best before date. It must feel good to know your songs are having longevity? ‘Dancing On My Own’ is still played a lot and I hear ‘You Are The Reason’ frequently. You have a tendency to release songs that have a long shelf-life too, which is rare for an artist. The second album was me taking a look at that and being like, ‘OK, well, now I have a responsibility to create music like I did on the first album to continue being a soundtrack for people’s lives’. I’ve seen it on wedding videos, I’ve seen it being used in really emotional, poignant moments and that’s a real honor. The album, for me, was was one of my proudest moments so far in my career and touring that and seeing that music resonate with people and soundtrack their lives. It just felt right and then that paved the way for the ‘Only Human’ album and releasing ‘You Are the Reason’ and watching that transcend across the world. I think this is where I can see my music going’ but not having any real certainty in it. Then doing my own version and putting my emotion on it and thinking, ‘this is my voice. It was something that I could never have even imagined, just from me relating so much to Robyn’s ‘Dancing On My Own’. Like I’ve said to you before during our first interview, I went from working in human resources in Hull, a small city in the corner of East Yorkshire, and then all of a sudden I had, more or less, the world at my doorstep. It’s just been the most amazing experience. Since then things have sky rocketed for you. At that time ‘Dancing On My Own’ was blowing up and we hadn’t had the ‘Only Human’ album yet. I can’t believe it’s been five years since we last chatted.